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Can some one tell me what Gail Shea has done since she was appointed Fisheries Minister??? Sure, she went to China and tried to convince them that seals were good to eat, but apparently had better success getting them to buy seal penises.

She took her whole Aquaculture department at taxpayers expense to Norway for a hell of a good holiday that cost us taxpayers more money. It achieved nothing...........

So what else has she done to deserve that salary that most of us would REALLY like to have? As I get older-- the more I get jaded about our political system that rewards incompetents..
 

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.......And so.....You want us to vote for who? and why? in the upcoming election??? Regards......
 

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.......And so.....You want us to vote for who? and why? in the upcoming election??? Regards......
Dont have any idea.. but I'll bet it shouldnt be hard for PEIers to find someone who has a better understanding of our fisheries on both coasts...

But I will let you eastcoasters figure that out-- there are enough problems on the westcoast to keep me up at night.
 

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Very, very good I would laugh if I did not think it was to true
 

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YES!!!!! SHE IS OUT OF THE FISHERIES PORTFOLIO!!!! There is a God!!!! Now maybe we will get some recognition from Ottawa that some segments of the recreational saltwater fishery in BC bring in more money to the economy than commercial fishing!

 

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Fisheries Management in the UNITED SOCIALIST REPUBLIC of CANADA!

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=AxpVhXRRFo4
You're right. Steven Harper is exactly the same kind of socialist that Hitler was--the Fascist, Right-Wing, Autocratic, Dictatorial, Racist, War-Mongering kind-- I.E., the NAZI kind.

Should have elected the true democratic socialist, Jack Layton.

P.S.

I am not a socialist, but I am a democrat.
 

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You're right. Steven Harper is exactly the same kind of socialist that Hitler was--the Fascist, Right-Wing, Autocratic, Dictatorial, Racist, War-Mongering kind-- I.E., the NAZI kind.

Should have elected the true democratic socialist, Jack Layton.

P.S.

I am not a socialist, but I am a democrat.
You forgot the one important difference; he was elected by the people and can be voted out by the people. The people of Germany did not have that option when it came to Hitler.
And if you feel that Harper is in the same league as Hitler, then you are either severely misguided, or a revisionist historian.
The Conservatives were voted in by the people; some people need to get over it.
 

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Scott, Hitler was also voted into power. Then he manipulated, schemed and conspired his way into the dictatorship. Maybe it is less likely to happen here in Canada, but not impossible. What Harper needs to be mindful of is that while he did win the majority of seats, he only won 40% of the popular vote.

We have a ruling party in Canada that 60 percent of us did not vote for. And yes, he is a righ-ring autocrat who will throw us under the bus in a minute if it means that it will make his cronies happy.

I'll be happy to see the long-gun registry go away, and I'll be happy to see our airforce get decent aircraft. . . but I can't think of anything else that will commend the Conservative Party, least of all their fisheries policies.
 

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Coachman,

(Biting my tongue)

Good post.

Terran
 

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You forgot the one important difference; he was elected by the people and can be voted out by the people. The people of Germany did not have that option when it came to Hitler.
And if you feel that Harper is in the same league as Hitler, then you are either severely misguided, or a revisionist historian.
The Conservatives were voted in by the people; some people need to get over it.
Scott, I wrote that response because the ex-lobster ran a clip calling Canada a "socialist" country, with bits of a movie about Hitler speaking German, but with English sub-titles putting across a political 'message' for Canadians.

Many people who do not know any history, even recent history such as that of German politics between world wars, think that because Hitler joined and quickly took over a small political party in the twenties that was called "The National Socialist Party", i.e., NAZI Party, that that party and Hitler were "socialists". Those who know a little political and economic philosophy will know that the Nazi Party, far from being left-wing socialist, were in fact right-wing fascist. Just like Benito Mussolini in Italy, Francisco Franco in Spain, Salazar in Portugal, the Imperial Japanese system, and many others, then and now. They hated democratic socialism, trade unions, and anything else that smacked of egalitarianism.

If you do not know what fascism is, Benito Mussolini, its inventor, said it was the same political/economic system as Corporatism. Corporatism is government of the people by the corporate elites, for the corporate elites, [particularly those that control media and financial interests], using the natural, instinctive right-wing tendencies of certain segments of the population [that I will not go into that here] to put them within reach of power in pseudo-democracies like ours.

In Germany Hitler built up the National "Socialist" Party so that it ran candidates in several national elections. In July 1932 the Nazis won the largest number of seats in the Reichstag, but not a majority. By sowing hatred through attack ads and violence they kept the government unsettled until Hitler, to calm things down, was stupidly appointed Chancellor [sort of 'prime minister'], still with less than 40% of the national voters on his side. Once given the power of Chancellor, destroying what remained of German democracy was child's play for that crew.

The biggest difference between Mussolini's brand of Fascism and Hitler's was religious intolerance and intolerance of "deviates", usually a linkage of simplistic "Christian" credos and pseudo-Darwinist "fitness-based" elitism. Bigotry plus Corporatism = Nazism.

Have you been able to follow me so far? If you have then you realize that a clip calling the Harper regime's rule in Canada 'socialist' is a lie. Harper's crew is no more "socialist" than was Hitler's in Germany. And even a cursory look at Harper's history shows that he runs an autocratic "one-man show", allies himself with 'big business', 'Bay St.', and especially 'Big Oil'. He also like wars and fancy weapons that cost zillions. Also prisons and policemen. Hitler liked all that, too. Unlike Hitler, Harper loves Zionism. Do you know why?

Well, now that a minority of Canadians have appointed Steven Harper their "chancellor", so to speak, let's just see what he does with that power, shall we?

Good Luck with that.

chuck
 

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Scott, I wrote that response because the ex-lobster ran a clip calling Canada a "socialist" country, with bits of a movie about Hitler speaking German, but with English sub-titles putting across a political 'message' for Canadians.

Many people who do not know any history, even recent history such as that of German politics between world wars, think that because Hitler joined and quickly took over a small political party in the twenties that was called "The National Socialist Party", i.e., NAZI Party, that that party and Hitler were "socialists". Those who know a little political and economic philosophy will know that the Nazi Party, far from being left-wing socialist, were in fact right-wing fascist. Just like Benito Mussolini in Italy, Francisco Franco in Spain, Salazar in Portugal, the Imperial Japanese system, and many others, then and now. They hated democratic socialism, trade unions, and anything else that smacked of egalitarianism.

If you do not know what fascism is, Benito Mussolini, its inventor, said it was the same political/economic system as Corporatism. Corporatism is government of the people by the corporate elites, for the corporate elites, [particularly those that control media and financial interests], using the natural, instinctive right-wing tendencies of certain segments of the population [that I will not go into that here] to put them within reach of power in pseudo-democracies like ours.

In Germany Hitler built up the National "Socialist" Party so that it ran candidates in several national elections. In July 1932 the Nazis won the largest number of seats in the Reichstag, but not a majority. By sowing hatred through attack ads and violence they kept the government unsettled until Hitler, to calm things down, was stupidly appointed Chancellor [sort of 'prime minister'], still with less than 40% of the national voters on his side. Once given the power of Chancellor, destroying what remained of German democracy was child's play for that crew.

The biggest difference between Mussolini's brand of Fascism and Hitler's was religious intolerance and intolerance of "deviates", usually a linkage of simplistic "Christian" credos and pseudo-Darwinist "fitness-based" elitism. Bigotry plus Corporatism = Nazism.

Have you been able to follow me so far? If you have then you realize that a clip calling the Harper regime's rule in Canada 'socialist' is a lie. Harper's crew is no more "socialist" than was Hitler's in Germany. And even a cursory look at Harper's history shows that he runs an autocratic "one-man show", allies himself with 'big business', 'Bay St.', and especially 'Big Oil'. He also like wars and fancy weapons that cost zillions. Also prisons and policemen. Hitler liked all that, too. Unlike Hitler, Harper loves Zionism. Do you know why?

Well, now that a minority of Canadians have appointed Steven Harper their "chancellor", so to speak, let's just see what he does with that power, shall we?

Good Luck with that.

chuck
That was absolutely weak.
I stand by my post, you made your point clear in your first post as well. Don't try to sugar-coat it!
For you to put Hitler and any Canadian politician in the same catagory as Adolf Hitler is ridiculous, and unfounded. It's also an insult to the people that fought against Hitler in WW2 and to the millions that were killed by Hitler and his minions.
 

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The anti-Conservative minions seem to relish bringing up the fact that the winning party only got 40% of the vote. What is your point?!?!? It's the Canadian electoral system; it's the way it's been since confederation. Would you be whining if the Liberals or NDP had gotten a majority with 35-40% of the vote?!? Not likely. The Conservatives won, fair and square; get over it! If you don't like the job they do over the next four years, then you or any of us have the opportunity to vote them out.
The Liberals went into the election with a leader that was sorely lacking in charisma, the NDP brought forth a believable message, and unabashedly shot down the Liberals during the campaign to gain votes. And if it wasn't for the Green Party (the left-wingers biggest mistake) sucking votes out of the NDP, the results could have been very different.
Either change the system, or stop the whining.
 

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Would you be whining if the Liberals or NDP had gotten a majority with 35-40% of the vote?!?
Yes I would be complaining. It is not democracy. It is in fact a plutocracy: governemnt by monied interests.

As for comparing Harper's tactics to those of Hitler or other Fascists, I say it is a fair comparison. In the words of John McRae:

"If ye break faith with us who die,
We shall not sleep,
Though poppies grow
In Flanders Fields. . ."

It is a great disservice (a breaking of the faith) for us to ignore history and allow any politician or political party to use the methods that led topast catastrophes. Will Harper ever be as bad as Hitler? Unlikely. But are his tactics similar? Absolutely. The comparison is fair.
 

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Yes I would be complaining. It is not democracy. It is in fact a plutocracy: governemnt by monied interests.

As for comparing Harper's tactics to those of Hitler or other Fascists, I say it is a fair comparison. In the words of John McRae:

"If ye break faith with us who die,
We shall not sleep,
Though poppies grow
In Flanders Fields. . ."

It is a great disservice (a breaking of the faith) for us to ignore history and allow any politician or political party to use the methods that led topast catastrophes. Will Harper ever be as bad as Hitler? Unlikely. But are his tactics similar? Absolutely. The comparison is fair.
This is BS, keep your bloody out to lunch opinions to yourself. How many years have you spent in uniform serving your country? How many months on foriegn soil? Putting your life on the line to allow people like you to have the right to compare our...my Prime Minister to Hitler? My friend you are some kind of keyboard warrior. Bring that crap into a mess hall or legion and see where it gets you. If you are now or ever were a soldier than I am ashamed to think I may have had to put my life in your hands at one time or another. Disgusting. Someone like you quoting John McCrae, wow....

Is there an ignore button option on this forum? ............Please someone tell me how it's done if possible. This is a bloody fishing forum not a platform for BS like you and ole Chuck contuniously spout in thread after thread.

I am truely sorry I took the time to open and read this thread. I should have known better.
 
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