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Hi all;

Thanks to a finger tremor [early Parkinson's] I have much difficulty in tying knots, let alone flies. So I've been buying mine. But I would like to fish tube flies, and they all seem to be very expensive. Is this because they are difficult and/or expensive to tie?

I thought maybe they might be easier to tie [no hook
] and so maybe I could manage to tie my own without creating monster mutants.
Possible?!?

Any advice, info, welcome.

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Chuck: If you google Tying Tube Flies, you will find a number of sites. There is a company called Eumer from the US who specialise in tube fly products and they also have a number of very good video tutorials in their "classroom" area of the website. I watched one of their videos of the "easy" skill level and, I'm sure you can embark (even with a slight tremor) on tying your own. It appears as they utilize super glue to tie some very neat flies with a minimum of knots. I'm positive that if you follow their instructions, will have solved your problem. Regards.....
 

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Chuck: If you google Tying Tube Flies, you will find a number of sites. There is a company called Eumer from the US who specialise in tube fly products and they also have a number of very good video tutorials in their "classroom" area of the website. I watched one of their videos of the "easy" skill level and, I'm sure you can embark (even with a slight tremor) on tying your own. It appears as they utilize super glue to tie some very neat flies with a minimum of knots. I'm positive that if you follow their instructions, will have solved your problem. Regards.....
Hi Sm;

Thanks for the advice. I had checked out several sites, but not the 'classroom' you speak of.

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Well, I am new at tieing tubes and no expert at all! I find I tie them for large flies especially striper flies as I can tie a large fly with reduced weight over a fly tied on a large hook. I will try smaller flies but at this point I am satisfied with what I am produceing for flies. I caught a couple salmon on tubes after the water came up and large flies worked. I dont find them any more difficult to tie than a hook fly at all but the tube for me at this stage of my tieing tubes streamer patterns seem to be what I am comfortable with. Get an adapter for your vice and some tubes and have at it!
There are two types of flies. One that catches fish and the other catches anglers!lol
 

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Well, I am new at tieing tubes and no expert at all! I find I tie them for large flies especially striper flies as I can tie a large fly with reduced weight over a fly tied on a large hook. I will try smaller flies but at this point I am satisfied with what I am produceing for flies. I caught a couple salmon on tubes after the water came up and large flies worked. I dont find them any more difficult to tie than a hook fly at all but the tube for me at this stage of my tieing tubes streamer patterns seem to be what I am comfortable with. Get an adapter for your vice and some tubes and have at it!
There are two types of flies. One that catches fish and the other catches anglers!lol
Hi Perry;

Thanks. I'm mostly interested in streamers for smallmouth in pickerel-populated water. Figure that if there's a way to lose a hook but keep a fly [some kind of 'stop-knot' in the tube?] it might save me money and aggravation. Other thought is to attach the hook to a wire tippet and run the wire through the tube.

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Naw, I wouldn't but what the heck! The beauty of a tube is it rides up the line when you are fighting a fish and the small hook is very hard for a fish to shake. If it is toothy it saves the fly. You could if you wish tie on a aluminum tube and peg it at the head to prevent the fly from rideing up, thus preventing the fish from biteing off. Your metal tippet the length of the tube would work as the fly would go up and the metal tippet would prevent a cut line. Just thinking out loud.
 

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Naw, I wouldn't but what the heck! The beauty of a tube is it rides up the line when you are fighting a fish and the small hook is very hard for a fish to shake. If it is toothy it saves the fly. You could if you wish tie on a aluminum tube and peg it at the head to prevent the fly from rideing up, thus preventing the fish from biteing off. Your metal tippet the length of the tube would work as the fly would go up and the metal tippet would prevent a cut line. Just thinking out loud.
Hi Perry;

I was just thinking that if a pickerel bit off the hook then the tube fly would then just slide down the the line and off. Same for snags; break off the hook and you lose the fly. Trying to figure a way to stop that kind of loss since they tend to be expensive.

I have used plastic-coated picture-hanging wire as a tippet. You can tie knots in it and it doesn't take a permanent kink, like multi-strand wire leaders do. It straightens right out. But I haven't been able to test its 'bite resistance', as I haven't hooked any pickerel since July. Lousy year for me altogether.
Oh, well, there's always next year!


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Had alot of fun with Bass and Pike on the tubes this year, the pattern in pic takes only a couple of minutes as i wanted to keep it simple ! for me simplicity really is the beauty of the component tubes. I use toothy critter through the tubes as both fish inhabit the same water and bass from my experience dont seem to be leader shy. I havnet as yet lost a tube because of this and i spend less time at the vise due to the fact the tube runs up the leader as perry pointed out.
 

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Had alot of fun with Bass and Pike on the tubes this year, the pattern in pic takes only a couple of minutes as i wanted to keep it simple ! for me simplicity really is the beauty of the component tubes. I use toothy critter through the tubes as both fish inhabit the same water and bass from my experience dont seem to be leader shy. I havnet as yet lost a tube because of this and i spend less time at the vise due to the fact the tube runs up the leader as perry pointed out.
Hi;

I've been wondering about 'toothy critter' leaders and wondering if you don't lose a bit every time you tie on a new fly. You could go through a lot of expensive leaders that way, I suspect. No?

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Hi;

I've been wondering about 'toothy critter' leaders and wondering if you don't lose a bit every time you tie on a new fly. You could go through a lot of expensive leaders that way, I suspect. No?

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chuck
Hi Chuck
Its very essential you use tooth critter or something like that. Baling wire, fence wire anything will do.
It might cost a bit when you tie on a new hook but not as much as a new fly, tube or whatever.
Those little fellows have sharp teeth.
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Hi Chuck
Its very essential you use tooth critter or something like that. Baling wire, fence wire anything will do.
It might cost a bit when you tie on a new hook but not as much as a new fly, tube or whatever.
Those little fellows have sharp teeth.
Paul
Hi Paul;

Did you get my e-mail? You're right about needing some kind of protection from those razor-sharp teeth, and that new leaders are a lot cheaper than new flies. So titanium or stainless steel [tippet] leaders are one good solution. I have been trying single-strand plastic-coated wire used in crafts as tippets on regylar leaders, but as I said to Perry, I can't vouch for its 'bite-proofness' [is that a word?!?
] because I have yet to catch a good sized pickerel when using it. One good thing about it is that it is very cheap. But the plastic coat makes it thicker than mono or flouro, and if you remove the plastic, the wire itself is very bright and shiny. Although, as Fm.ca pointed out, bass and pickerel don't seem very leader shy.

Another approach it seems many use is to use barbless circle hooks that catch in the lip ahead of the teeth. [Barbless in case you've never tried toextract a circle hook from a thrashing fish and had it stick in your thumb!!] But I'm not sure if circles don't still get bitten off.


Hope to hear from you about those flies.


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Toothy critter and tyger are quite pricey but its selling point is in its flexibilty and its small diameter . I think though all things considered like losing flies and worse losing fish! its well worth it .One thing mught be to use a small snap hook .
 

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I bought some single strand,20lb Stainless steel wire some years ago. I think it was made by Cortland and it was about $25.00 for 100yd. At that price, it's a good deal and will make several seasons worth of leaders. If you get a kink you can replace or continue fishing with it. I have never had one break (despite a kink or two)and I have used them in the salt for shark as well. Regards....
 

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I tie alot of tube flies. They are no different than tying on a single hook. the body and head will obviously be bigger but the advantages out weigh the size difference. Theres a lot less leverage that a hooked fish will have with a small octopus hook than a long shank streamer hook. Tubes from a fly shop are expensive. I purchased 1000 q-tips at the great canadian dollar store for $2.....thats alot of tubes. These qtips are thicker thsn some of the others ive tried and work very will. they also fit my tube adapter very well. as far at steel tippit/leader, i just use 50 lb braid i got off ebay for $7 for 300yrds. I tie up leaders with sm snap swivels or just tie to the mono leader a sufficiant amount when using tube flies. these leaders do eventually get worn but i just switch em out for a new one or retie. nippers or clippers wont cut the stuff so carry a good pair of siscors or a knife.
 

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Almost forgot, junction tubing(used to hold the hook in place at the rear of the tube).......mini airline (aquarium) tubing fits the qtips well. Hard to find tho............
 
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