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#1 BJR

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:06 PM

Hey All, 

 

I'm looking for some help tracking down real images that outline the differences between browns and salmon. I've searched many sites and can recite all of the specifics from the diagrams, but I can't find any real images of fish to compare these to. I've caught quite a few browns this summer but I plan on going after some sea run in the spring. As I understand it, they are more difficult to tell apart in spring as the colours are similar. I'll be fishing in a river that has both a brown and salmon run, and if there was ever a doubt, would be releasing. But in honesty, I do enjoy a feed (I prefer speckles), and so would like to try a sea run brown to see if they are similar. This might be more of a 'trout' board topic, but I figured I need someone familiar with salmon to help. Any advice is appreciated. 


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#2 StripperGuide

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 11:06 PM

Fresh sea run salmon

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Fresh sea run Brown(Note spots well below the laterial line )

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salmon

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Brown

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 11:10 PM



Eat browns ....and release all your speckles ....they need our help in a bad way in our rivers .
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Posted 29 January 2015 - 06:49 PM

Thanks for the help. I was searching for pictures of the upper mouth. I figured that the teeth would be an easy tell, but these photos have me feeling more confident. I should've mentioned the specs I get are usually from the Cape Breton highlands and Mira area. The stocks are doing fairly well around there as far as I know. I'm mostly catch and release (careful release) with the odd feed, but I agree with you that we need to be aware! I'll have to look into the trout stocks in those areas. Thanks for your input.  


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Posted 29 January 2015 - 06:54 PM

I also should've asked, is it typically the spots that you use to determine?  Or is there an easier tell. The upper lip looks to extend to roughly the same place on the first three photos. I can't see the tails but I would imagine they are difficult to determine as well. 


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Posted 29 January 2015 - 10:20 PM



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1.TAIL FIN - When extended salmon have a concave tail. The sea trout's tail is convex or straight edged (when extended).
2.WRIST OF TAIL - Salmon have a narrow wrist with distinct broadening on the tail side of the wrist. Sea trout have a relatively broad tail. This is particularly prominent in multi-sea winter salmon.
3.MARKINGS - Salmon have relitively few dark spots below the lateral line. Sea trout have numerous dark spots.
4.MOUTH - The jaw of a salmon extends no further than the rear edge of the eye. The upper jaw of a sea trout extends beyond the rear edge of the eye.
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Posted 29 January 2015 - 11:25 PM

Thanks again for your help. 


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Posted 30 January 2015 - 07:53 AM



No problem , what kind of gear will you be using ?
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Posted 30 January 2015 - 05:34 PM

All barbless fly. I have a 8 and 9 wt combo. I've been tying mostly marabou's, bugs, and nymphs with the odd classic streamer. I'll be fishing the rivers between Truro and Oxford. I had quite a bit of success with small browns and a few speckles during the summer on River Philip. Took my first shot at Salmon fishing last season wasn't able to get any takes. I can see why its some love it for its challenge. If you have any recommendations for flies for sea run browns I'd love to hear them. I assumed they would be similar to the salmon flies.  


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Posted 31 January 2015 - 08:05 AM



You really must have bunny strip and zuddlers, tan bunny strip fly , gold cone head bunny strip , and elk hair caddis , cadis work really well on mayfly hatch , are you living in Truro cause that is where I am located . Do you tie your own flys ?
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Posted 31 January 2015 - 09:38 AM

Yes I am living in Truro, and I do tie most of my own. I have several elk hair caddis and love that fly for all fish. Thanks for the heads up on the others, I'll have to get cracking on them now to hold off the April itch! 


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